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		<title>Comment on OBAMA MAKES KIDS DUMB by Now With Blogroll! &#124; Zilla of the Resistance at MareZilla.com</title>
		<link>http://sago.com/2012/02/18/obama-makes-kids-dumb/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>Now With Blogroll! &#124; Zilla of the Resistance at MareZilla.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Obama/Alinsky And The Catholic Church by Rogue</title>
		<link>http://sago.com/2012/02/11/obamaalinsky-and-the-catholic-church/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The left can be so far out is is difficult to distinguish between conservative satire and leftwing fundamentalism. Do we laugh or recoil in horror when things like this are said? Is it Texas Chainsaw or Hannabil Lector?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left can be so far out is is difficult to distinguish between conservative satire and leftwing fundamentalism. Do we laugh or recoil in horror when things like this are said? Is it Texas Chainsaw or Hannabil Lector?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obama/Alinsky And The Catholic Church by Imogene</title>
		<link>http://sago.com/2012/02/11/obamaalinsky-and-the-catholic-church/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>Imogene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I think it means for a woman to have reproductive rights.

A woman unfortunate enough to get pregnant should have the right to terminate her pregnancy by any means until the complete expulsion of the fetus. Then, for a minimum of three days afterwards, she should have a right of rescission and be able to demand and have carried out her wishes that the expelled product be terminated. 

How uncommon is it in nature for an animal to eat its young? For starters, there are hamsters, hippopotamuses, hyenas, polar bears, wolf spiders, wolves, and all sorts of fish and insects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I think it means for a woman to have reproductive rights.</p>
<p>A woman unfortunate enough to get pregnant should have the right to terminate her pregnancy by any means until the complete expulsion of the fetus. Then, for a minimum of three days afterwards, she should have a right of rescission and be able to demand and have carried out her wishes that the expelled product be terminated. </p>
<p>How uncommon is it in nature for an animal to eat its young? For starters, there are hamsters, hippopotamuses, hyenas, polar bears, wolf spiders, wolves, and all sorts of fish and insects.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Romney: A Total Failure on Double Taxation by Rogue</title>
		<link>http://sago.com/2012/01/24/romney-a-total-failure-on-double-taxation/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While you have a point, it is minor.
 
When realizing a capital gain, the value of the underlying asset (what you get paid) IS reduced according to the corporate taxes paid. To think otherwise shows a lack of understanding.
Anytime you remove capital from a corporation the value of the corporation is reduced by a similar amount.
Doesn&#039;t matter if it is taxes paid or dividends paid. Watch the price of stocks that pay dividends before and after the ex-div date. Or when the IRS gets a judgement against them.
EBITA and EBITDA are methods used to provide reliable valuation across differing types of business entities. It is necessary because sole-proprietors pay at one rate, pass-throughs like S-Corps and LLCs a different rate and C-Corps yet another rate.
By using before tax earnings a potential buyer can calculate the after tax earnings based on his or her own personal rate. It is accounting short-hand to make comparisons easier.

There can be no question that taxes reduce the potential capital gain by reducing the value of the corporate shares. So indirectly the income is double taxed. Since capital is what makes the economy go around, taxing it makes it go slower. Or, as currently happens, the business moves as much as possible of its business operations to low tax jurisdictions. And naturally the jobs follow. There is your outsourcing primer for today.

Yes, there are other types of capital gains that do not appear to suffer double taxation like perhaps real estate. But capital follows profit, whether you like it or not. Tax this type differently and investors will act accordingly. In addition it would give corporations a larger price advantage over an individual private property owner who can&#039;t shield all of the expenses the same way.

What do you think about how much his secretary makes? Seems north of $300K according to estimates, some gig, huh? I feel sorry for her being pimped out by her boss this way. Will they release her tax returns?

PS, I can&#039;t stand Mitt but I do know what makes America work and it isn&#039;t demogoguery and class warfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you have a point, it is minor.</p>
<p>When realizing a capital gain, the value of the underlying asset (what you get paid) IS reduced according to the corporate taxes paid. To think otherwise shows a lack of understanding.<br />
Anytime you remove capital from a corporation the value of the corporation is reduced by a similar amount.<br />
Doesn&#8217;t matter if it is taxes paid or dividends paid. Watch the price of stocks that pay dividends before and after the ex-div date. Or when the IRS gets a judgement against them.<br />
EBITA and EBITDA are methods used to provide reliable valuation across differing types of business entities. It is necessary because sole-proprietors pay at one rate, pass-throughs like S-Corps and LLCs a different rate and C-Corps yet another rate.<br />
By using before tax earnings a potential buyer can calculate the after tax earnings based on his or her own personal rate. It is accounting short-hand to make comparisons easier.</p>
<p>There can be no question that taxes reduce the potential capital gain by reducing the value of the corporate shares. So indirectly the income is double taxed. Since capital is what makes the economy go around, taxing it makes it go slower. Or, as currently happens, the business moves as much as possible of its business operations to low tax jurisdictions. And naturally the jobs follow. There is your outsourcing primer for today.</p>
<p>Yes, there are other types of capital gains that do not appear to suffer double taxation like perhaps real estate. But capital follows profit, whether you like it or not. Tax this type differently and investors will act accordingly. In addition it would give corporations a larger price advantage over an individual private property owner who can&#8217;t shield all of the expenses the same way.</p>
<p>What do you think about how much his secretary makes? Seems north of $300K according to estimates, some gig, huh? I feel sorry for her being pimped out by her boss this way. Will they release her tax returns?</p>
<p>PS, I can&#8217;t stand Mitt but I do know what makes America work and it isn&#8217;t demogoguery and class warfare.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Romney: A Total Failure on Double Taxation by tim_callan</title>
		<link>http://sago.com/2012/01/24/romney-a-total-failure-on-double-taxation/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>tim_callan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wrong daniel, you&#039;re confusing capital gains and dividends.  you can argue dividends are double taxed because they are the result of after tax profits paid to shareholders of a corporations.  Capital gains taxes the growth in value of an investment after it is sold and this is never subject to corporate taxes.  In fact, the value of a corporation is typically a multiple of EBITA which stands for earnings BEFORE interest TAXES and amortization.  Romney was on Hannity last night and made the same mistake confusing capital gains and dividends.

In addition, you fail to point out that the bulk of Romney&#039;s and Buffett wealth was never taxed higher than 15%.  They have a loophole called carried interest which converts what would be income for the rest of us over to capital gains.  what a deal?  the tax code does favor the ultra rich and poor, and hammers those of us in the middle to upper class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrong daniel, you&#8217;re confusing capital gains and dividends.  you can argue dividends are double taxed because they are the result of after tax profits paid to shareholders of a corporations.  Capital gains taxes the growth in value of an investment after it is sold and this is never subject to corporate taxes.  In fact, the value of a corporation is typically a multiple of EBITA which stands for earnings BEFORE interest TAXES and amortization.  Romney was on Hannity last night and made the same mistake confusing capital gains and dividends.</p>
<p>In addition, you fail to point out that the bulk of Romney&#8217;s and Buffett wealth was never taxed higher than 15%.  They have a loophole called carried interest which converts what would be income for the rest of us over to capital gains.  what a deal?  the tax code does favor the ultra rich and poor, and hammers those of us in the middle to upper class.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Popular Vote Is Backed By George Soros And Assorted Other Communists by Rogue</title>
		<link>http://sago.com/2012/01/19/national-popular-vote-is-backed-by-george-soros-and-assorted-other-communists/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 03:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1913 Americans opted (via amendment) for the direct election of senators. A look at the growth curve of Washington DC shows this was a very poor choice.
The 17th Amendment broke down one of the &quot;checks&quot; on accumulated power.
The founding fathers were clear, pure democracy is a bad idea. It becomes mob rule.
The electoral college is another such check. It gives less populated states a slight advantage over more populous states. These states tend to be more rural.
Having lived in more than one state where folks in the countryside are ruled by the city folks I have seen first hand the terrible results pure &quot;democracy&quot; can have on the rights of the minority.
Washington State&#039;s prop 49 back in the 90&#039;s being a perfect example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1913 Americans opted (via amendment) for the direct election of senators. A look at the growth curve of Washington DC shows this was a very poor choice.<br />
The 17th Amendment broke down one of the &#8220;checks&#8221; on accumulated power.<br />
The founding fathers were clear, pure democracy is a bad idea. It becomes mob rule.<br />
The electoral college is another such check. It gives less populated states a slight advantage over more populous states. These states tend to be more rural.<br />
Having lived in more than one state where folks in the countryside are ruled by the city folks I have seen first hand the terrible results pure &#8220;democracy&#8221; can have on the rights of the minority.<br />
Washington State&#8217;s prop 49 back in the 90&#8242;s being a perfect example.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Rogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by halthouse1</title>
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		<dc:creator>halthouse1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I added you to the blogroll at The Political Commentator here: http://politicsandfinance.blogspot.com

Mike Haltman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I added you to the blogroll at The Political Commentator here: <a href="http://politicsandfinance.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://politicsandfinance.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>Mike Haltman</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Popular Vote Is Backed By George Soros And Assorted Other Communists by halthouse1</title>
		<link>http://sago.com/2012/01/19/national-popular-vote-is-backed-by-george-soros-and-assorted-other-communists/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>halthouse1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should presidential elections no longer use the Electoral College and have the winner selected purely by the winner of the popular vote instead? Some believe that is the case!

The coments at this article at The Political Commentator suggests differently however: http://politicsandfinance.blogspot.com/2012/01/no-more-electoral-college-presidential.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should presidential elections no longer use the Electoral College and have the winner selected purely by the winner of the popular vote instead? Some believe that is the case!</p>
<p>The coments at this article at The Political Commentator suggests differently however: <a href="http://politicsandfinance.blogspot.com/2012/01/no-more-electoral-college-presidential.html" rel="nofollow">http://politicsandfinance.blogspot.com/2012/01/no-more-electoral-college-presidential.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on National Popular Vote Is Backed By George Soros And Assorted Other Communists by kohler</title>
		<link>http://sago.com/2012/01/19/national-popular-vote-is-backed-by-george-soros-and-assorted-other-communists/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes (not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, but since enacted by 48 states), under which all of a state&#039;s electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who gets the most votes in each separate state, ensures that the candidates, after the primaries, will not reach out to about 76% of the states and their voters. Candidates have no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or care about the voter concerns in the dozens of states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind. 

Presidential candidates concentrate their attention on only the current handful of closely divided &quot;battleground&quot; states and their voters.  There is no incentive for them to bother to care about the majority of states where they are hopelessly behind or safely ahead to win.  9 of the original 13 states are considered “fly-over” now. In the 2012 election, pundits and campaign operatives agree already, that, at most, only 12 states and their voters will matter. They will decide the election. None of the 10 most rural states will matter, as usual.  About 76% of the country will be ignored --including 19 of the 22 lowest population and medium-small states, and 17 medium and big states like CA, GA, NY, and TX.  This will be more obscene than the 2008 campaign, when candidates concentrated over 2/3rds of their campaign events and ad money in just 6 states, and 98% in just 15 states (CO, FL, IN, IA, MI, MN, MO, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, PA, VA, and WI).  Over half (57%) of the events were in just 4 states (OH, FL, PA, and VA).  In 2004, candidates concentrated over 2/3rds of their money and campaign visits in 5 states; over 80% in 9 states; and over 99% of their money in 16 states.  
			
More than 2/3rds of the states and people have been merely spectators to presidential elections. That&#039;s more than 85 million voters ignored.   When and where voters are ignored, then so are the issues they care about most. 
	
Policies important to the citizens of ‘flyover’ states are not as highly prioritized as policies important to ‘battleground’ states when it comes to governing.

Because of the state-by-state winner-take-all electoral votes laws in 48 states, a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.  This has occurred in 4 of the nation&#039;s 56 (1 in 14 = 7%) presidential elections.  The precariousness of the current state-by-state winner-take-all system is highlighted by the fact that a shift of a few thousand voters in one or two states would have elected the second-place candidate in 4 of the 13 presidential elections since World War II.  Near misses are now frequently common.  There have been 6 consecutive non-landslide presidential elections (1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, and 2008).  A shift of 60,000 voters in Ohio in 2004 would have defeated President Bush despite his nationwide lead of over 3 million votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes (not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, but since enacted by 48 states), under which all of a state&#8217;s electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who gets the most votes in each separate state, ensures that the candidates, after the primaries, will not reach out to about 76% of the states and their voters. Candidates have no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or care about the voter concerns in the dozens of states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind. </p>
<p>Presidential candidates concentrate their attention on only the current handful of closely divided &#8220;battleground&#8221; states and their voters.  There is no incentive for them to bother to care about the majority of states where they are hopelessly behind or safely ahead to win.  9 of the original 13 states are considered “fly-over” now. In the 2012 election, pundits and campaign operatives agree already, that, at most, only 12 states and their voters will matter. They will decide the election. None of the 10 most rural states will matter, as usual.  About 76% of the country will be ignored &#8211;including 19 of the 22 lowest population and medium-small states, and 17 medium and big states like CA, GA, NY, and TX.  This will be more obscene than the 2008 campaign, when candidates concentrated over 2/3rds of their campaign events and ad money in just 6 states, and 98% in just 15 states (CO, FL, IN, IA, MI, MN, MO, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, PA, VA, and WI).  Over half (57%) of the events were in just 4 states (OH, FL, PA, and VA).  In 2004, candidates concentrated over 2/3rds of their money and campaign visits in 5 states; over 80% in 9 states; and over 99% of their money in 16 states.  </p>
<p>More than 2/3rds of the states and people have been merely spectators to presidential elections. That&#8217;s more than 85 million voters ignored.   When and where voters are ignored, then so are the issues they care about most. </p>
<p>Policies important to the citizens of ‘flyover’ states are not as highly prioritized as policies important to ‘battleground’ states when it comes to governing.</p>
<p>Because of the state-by-state winner-take-all electoral votes laws in 48 states, a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.  This has occurred in 4 of the nation&#8217;s 56 (1 in 14 = 7%) presidential elections.  The precariousness of the current state-by-state winner-take-all system is highlighted by the fact that a shift of a few thousand voters in one or two states would have elected the second-place candidate in 4 of the 13 presidential elections since World War II.  Near misses are now frequently common.  There have been 6 consecutive non-landslide presidential elections (1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, and 2008).  A shift of 60,000 voters in Ohio in 2004 would have defeated President Bush despite his nationwide lead of over 3 million votes.</p>
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